1. He set himself up as a guru and women (and a few men) flocked to him for his teachings. I don't think his followers should be pitied or let off the hook though. They were evil in their own right. Manson told them what to do, but they tortured and murdered those people on their own. He never threatened them or forced them to do his bidding. They did it gladly. Everyone remembers the Tate-LaBianca murders but there were others who were assaulted and killed by Family members that year.

    Years ago I read the book Helter Skelter by prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. Creepiest thing I've ever read.
  2. OMG
    I read the Ann Rule book about Bundy. She knew him and apparently when he wasn't murdering women he was a nice looking, personable guy. That was part of how he got his victims.
    What was your friend's experience? Just a date/nothing unusual?
  3. Nope nothing unusual at all! They went on a normal date and hes was really nice. They didn't end up going on a second one because HE never reached out to her again Lol. I actually reached out to my friend to get more details on her.
  4. wow....guess your friend wasn't the type he wanted to kill
    I remember reading that book by Ann Rule in one night...scary
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  5. From what I've read, he was able to easily manipulate young girls given the era. The 50s were over, and a lot of teenagers in the 60s were experimenting with drugs and a newfound freedom that girls of the previous generation did not have (and did not understand). As a result, many felt unwelcome at home and many were runaways or kicked out due to their behavior. Manson provided them with a family, albeit twisted, that gave them a sense of belonging when they didn't get it at home.
  6. Yup! That's exactly what happened!
  7. I should check that book out! I haven't heard of it.

    So my friend replied! She is currently one of the chairs of the sorority she is a part of which is how she met her.

    The woman went on a date with Bundy when they were both students at the university of Utah in 1974. They just hung out at a local restaurant and he dropped her off. He was really sweet she said and was never able to tell he was killer until he finally was caught. After that one date she saw him around but they never spoke to each other again.
  8. wow.....if you like true crime the book is The Stranger Beside Me. Ann Rule wrote a lot of true crime but in this case she actually knew Bundy. The worked together before he committed the crimes I think.
    Real page turner.
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  9. Wow thanks!!
  10. If you want to know more about Manson and the Tate-LaBianca homicides, you must read Helter Skelter. Bugliosi was the prosecutor - he was an incredible egomaniac and jerk, but the book is very well written and I highly recommend it. It is by far the best source to learn more about this tragedy.

    Another thing that I found fascinating is listening to the interviews of Leslie VanHouten and Patricia Krenwinkle - it is fascinating to see the difference in them after 5 decades in prison and to hear them reflect on their crimes and what they saw in Manson. Clearly Krenwinkle has no hope of ever leaving prison and has resigned herself to that. Van Houten has twice been granted parole by the Parole Board - still waiting to see what the Governor does on the second one. I find Van Houten's story to be the most interesting by far - all the way back to the 1960s.
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  11. Yes! I watched the interviews too and they were definitely fascinating to watch.
  12. I think the Governor denied her parole again just recently.

  13. Yes, he did.